Comments on: Flash and Flex APIs Lack in Quality http://www.techper.net/2008/09/11/flash-and-flex-apis-lack-in-quality/ About Technology in My Life Thu, 11 Mar 2010 05:52:37 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: ryan http://www.techper.net/2008/09/11/flash-and-flex-apis-lack-in-quality/comment-page-1/#comment-8749 ryan Fri, 23 Jan 2009 01:45:25 +0000 http://www.techper.net/?p=135#comment-8749 @Dimitar DataEvent and TextEvent are conceputaully different... imho two classes who just so happen to have two properties of the same type are not identical... i think great api design should be conceptually obvious and it is really important to maintain that voice of communication to the programmer even if two events carry the exact same data types they communicate differnt ideas... @Dimitar DataEvent and TextEvent are conceputaully different…

imho two classes who just so happen to have two properties of the same type are not identical…

i think great api design should be conceptually obvious and it is really important to maintain that voice of communication to the programmer even if two events carry the exact same data types they communicate differnt ideas…

]]> By: Hjalle http://www.techper.net/2008/09/11/flash-and-flex-apis-lack-in-quality/comment-page-1/#comment-2733 Hjalle Mon, 15 Sep 2008 18:01:50 +0000 http://www.techper.net/?p=135#comment-2733 Stg: map uses put because it doesn't always add a value (if the key already exists it changes a old value). Stg: map uses put because it doesn’t always add a value (if the key already exists it changes a old value).

]]> By: Link Post Sunday 09/13 | Mr Sun Studios http://www.techper.net/2008/09/11/flash-and-flex-apis-lack-in-quality/comment-page-1/#comment-2716 Link Post Sunday 09/13 | Mr Sun Studios Sun, 14 Sep 2008 16:01:03 +0000 http://www.techper.net/?p=135#comment-2716 [...] Flash and Flex APIs Lack in Quality and Are AS3 Number Variables Objects or Not? by Tech Per [...] [...] Flash and Flex APIs Lack in Quality and Are AS3 Number Variables Objects or Not? by Tech Per [...]

]]> By: Stg http://www.techper.net/2008/09/11/flash-and-flex-apis-lack-in-quality/comment-page-1/#comment-2698 Stg Sat, 13 Sep 2008 11:52:46 +0000 http://www.techper.net/?p=135#comment-2698 And what about java collections? Why adding method of any Collection called .add, and adding method of Map called .put? and so on...Every technology has "bugs"...and it is OK...You get used to it, or switch technology. And what about java collections?
Why adding method of any Collection called .add, and adding method of Map called .put? and so on…Every technology has “bugs”…and it is OK…You get used to it, or switch technology.

]]> By: polesen http://www.techper.net/2008/09/11/flash-and-flex-apis-lack-in-quality/comment-page-1/#comment-2681 polesen Fri, 12 Sep 2008 13:09:33 +0000 http://www.techper.net/?p=135#comment-2681 @chad: I have only but taken the slightest peak. I *have* worked with .Net and Visual Studio using ASP .Net though. That experience made me really scared for toolchain lockin. Visual Studio alone could keep me away from Silverlight. @chad: I have only but taken the slightest peak. I *have* worked with .Net and Visual Studio using ASP .Net though. That experience made me really scared for toolchain lockin. Visual Studio alone could keep me away from Silverlight.

]]> By: Chad Campbell http://www.techper.net/2008/09/11/flash-and-flex-apis-lack-in-quality/comment-page-1/#comment-2680 Chad Campbell Fri, 12 Sep 2008 13:03:52 +0000 http://www.techper.net/?p=135#comment-2680 Just out of curiousity, have you tried looking at Silverlight? Personally, the beginning of my career was heavily focused on JavaSE and JavaEE. I peaked at Flash but I had similar frustrations with the APIs. Later (about 6 years ago), I took my Java skills and easily picked up .NET. Then, almost 2 years ago, I began running with Silverlight. I have not looked at JavaFX so I cannot comment on it. However, if you are a Java developer looking for a RIA framework, I would definately recommend taking a peak at Silverlight. Just out of curiousity, have you tried looking at Silverlight? Personally, the beginning of my career was heavily focused on JavaSE and JavaEE. I peaked at Flash but I had similar frustrations with the APIs. Later (about 6 years ago), I took my Java skills and easily picked up .NET. Then, almost 2 years ago, I began running with Silverlight. I have not looked at JavaFX so I cannot comment on it. However, if you are a Java developer looking for a RIA framework, I would definately recommend taking a peak at Silverlight.

]]> By: regge http://www.techper.net/2008/09/11/flash-and-flex-apis-lack-in-quality/comment-page-1/#comment-2671 regge Fri, 12 Sep 2008 02:46:41 +0000 http://www.techper.net/?p=135#comment-2671 I am quite a neophite in programming, but slowly developing a passion for it along with my skills. I am using AS3 and flex primarely now (kind of taking my distances from Javascript, still love PHP). Thank you for offering a critical view informed by your experience. It helps less knowledgeable persons like me step back and try to get more of the big picture. That said, I am sticking to FLEX or Flash AS3. Thanks. I am quite a neophite in programming, but slowly developing a passion for it along with my skills. I am using AS3 and flex primarely now (kind of taking my distances from Javascript, still love PHP). Thank you for offering a critical view informed by your experience. It helps less knowledgeable persons like me step back and try to get more of the big picture. That said, I am sticking to FLEX or Flash AS3.
Thanks.

]]> By: Dimitar G. http://www.techper.net/2008/09/11/flash-and-flex-apis-lack-in-quality/comment-page-1/#comment-2667 Dimitar G. Thu, 11 Sep 2008 23:55:27 +0000 http://www.techper.net/?p=135#comment-2667 Well, events are generic and can be used for any situations. ErrorEvent extends TextEvent just because of “text” property. So ErrorEvent does not add other functionality than deriving from TextEvent and switching the object name to ErrorEvent to be more meaningful for developers. TextEvent is used solemnly in Flash framework in text components like Text. But if you take a look, DataEvent and TextEvent are same, and DataEvent.data and TextEvent.text are strings, so TextEvent, DataEvent and ErrorEvent can be happily used in any situation for an object which needs to transport additional string value :-) The better way would be Event to have a string property (text, value, data or whatever name) and then all these 3 could go. And if Event would have an additional “data” property of type Object then things might be even more generalized and less strict. Every language and framework has its quirks and Actionscript 3.0 is no exception. Well, events are generic and can be used for any situations. ErrorEvent extends TextEvent just because of “text” property. So ErrorEvent does not add other functionality than deriving from TextEvent and switching the object name to ErrorEvent to be more meaningful for developers. TextEvent is used solemnly in Flash framework in text components like Text.

But if you take a look, DataEvent and TextEvent are same, and DataEvent.data and TextEvent.text are strings, so TextEvent, DataEvent and ErrorEvent can be happily used in any situation for an object which needs to transport additional string value :-)
The better way would be Event to have a string property (text, value, data or whatever name) and then all these 3 could go.

And if Event would have an additional “data” property of type Object then things might be even more generalized and less strict.

Every language and framework has its quirks and Actionscript 3.0 is no exception.

]]> By: Joeflash http://www.techper.net/2008/09/11/flash-and-flex-apis-lack-in-quality/comment-page-1/#comment-2664 Joeflash Thu, 11 Sep 2008 22:36:52 +0000 http://www.techper.net/?p=135#comment-2664 Yeah, that's a total WTF, agreed. But I'd reserve judgement until you've examined the Flash 10/Flex 4 APIs in detail. Some legacy stuff is bound to creep in, but by and large the APIs have improved with each iteration after FP9/Fx2. On a related note, have you seen the AS2 API? Now that was a fraked API... and until the last few years it's all Flash Platform Developers had to work with. Personally, I'd log the "ErrorEvent inheriting from TextEvent" as a Flash Player API bug with Adobe JIRA. Yeah, that’s a total WTF, agreed. But I’d reserve judgement until you’ve examined the Flash 10/Flex 4 APIs in detail. Some legacy stuff is bound to creep in, but by and large the APIs have improved with each iteration after FP9/Fx2.

On a related note, have you seen the AS2 API? Now that was a fraked API… and until the last few years it’s all Flash Platform Developers had to work with.

Personally, I’d log the “ErrorEvent inheriting from TextEvent” as a Flash Player API bug with Adobe JIRA.

]]> By: Ben http://www.techper.net/2008/09/11/flash-and-flex-apis-lack-in-quality/comment-page-1/#comment-2663 Ben Thu, 11 Sep 2008 22:32:42 +0000 http://www.techper.net/?p=135#comment-2663 That's interesting. I wonder what the thought process was behind that decision. That’s interesting. I wonder what the thought process was behind that decision.

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